“The smoking ban has had a serious and continuing effect on trade with the very important custom of smokers much diminished, and little positive news in terms of increased non-smoker or family business.”

So said the British Institute of Innkeeping (BII) in September 2008 about 12 months after the smoking ban.  I am immensely indebted to Chris Snowdon and his blog for the info.  http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/ other key findings included:

  • The proportion of smoking customers dropped from 54% to 38%;
  • 66% reported that their smoking customers were staying for shorter periods;
  • 75% reported that smokers were visiting less frequently;
  • 47% of businesses had laid off staff, although 5% had recruited additional staff;
  • Income from drinks fell by 9.8%;
  • Income from gaming machines fell by 13.5%.
The paper from the BII is here:

Does anyone wonder why anyone believes a damn word that ASH come up with?

 

 

 

 

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4 Responses to “The smoking ban has had a serious and continuing effect on trade with the very important custom of smokers much diminished, and little positive news in terms of increased non-smoker or family business.”

  1. Junican says:

    “”Data from the Office for National Statistics shows a net increase in the number of people visiting pubs since the smoking ban. When England went smoke-free in 2007, the number of premises licensed for alcohol increased by 5 per cent, and it has continued to grow every year since.””

    That from Emily Duncan in the Independent 29th May 2011 “The unstoppable march of Big Tobacco”.

    There was also another quote more recently by a rep of ASH on similar lines, and there have been others.

    This thought struck me:

    If it is true, as ASH says, that premises licences for alcohol are increasing and that the hospitality trade IN GENERAL is thriving, then it cannot be true that the recession is the reason for pub closures. What then is the reason for pub closures, consequent upon the smoking ban, if it is not the smoking ban?

    I leave that thought with you, Dave

  2. Frank J says:

    “Data from the Office for National Statistics shows a net increase in the number of people visiting pubs since the smoking ban.”

    Perhaps it’s me but I’m a bit sceptical of this one. How is this ‘data’ obtained? I can see the licenses, that’s simple, but how do they do this?

  3. Junican says:

    Frank J

    The Office of National Statistics did a survey in which questions about visits to pubs were asked. If you want to see the survey results, leave a note here (Dave permitting) and I will give you the URL.

  4. Chris Harris says:

    1) Human beings are not production units that exist solely to support the “Growth” aspirations of the state.
    2) We have to come to terms with our own mortality and the mortality of our kin. Death is a very bitter pill to swallow.
    3) Very few of us find employment that matches our interests and passions. The Basic economics of survival force
    us to accept financial solutions over jobs that would drive us. Working 12 hours a day at mind blowingly boring
    jobs is the lie that we have no choice but to live every single day of each year.
    4) Pubs in England evolved to meet the needs of people seeking solace through drinking,smoking and dining – this
    was their function. The sentence “Solace through drinking” does not mean blind drunks who can’t face reality – it
    means a few drinks (+ smokes) at the end of the working day in the calm of a public house.
    5) Smokers are now screwed – and I know that drinkers and diners are next.
    6) How many emplyees of THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION (WHO) have unnacceptable body/mass indexes
    I wonder. Shouldn’t they be banned from restaurants until their condition improves ?. As a smoker I wouldn’t dream of
    enforcing my (logical) beliefs upon them even though their weakness of mind does contribute to the world obesity epidemic
    that is upon us.
    7) I dream of the day when governments cease to be the puppets of the (WHO). And why isn’t anyone concerned about
    the (Mental) world health of citizens who like me are suffering serious ill health as a result of the world HEALTH organisations
    initiatives.
    8) I’m not suggesting a complete revearsal of the smoking ban in pubs but can see no reason why seggregated bars can’t be
    introduced. The thing that non smoking advocates of the ban fail to grasp is why popping outside for a cigarette just isn’t acceptable.
    I must tell these people that the effect upon smokers having to stand outside to smoke is identical to going to a restaurant and
    being told to go outside every time you feel the need to eat. This is not an exaggeration it is the truth that has seen my monthly
    pub spend fall from £350 tp £0. Is is the truth that has completely destroyed the quality time that my wife and I used to spend in
    our local pub.
    9) There is a television advert that sums it all up for me really. This sketch shows a domestic android charged with the household duties
    of ironing and hoovering while his human owners are at work. The scene opens with the robot faithfully performing his tasks as the
    owners of the house prepare to leave for work. The next scene show him kicked back on the sofa downing a can of lager and having a fag as
    he watches TV. It is clear that this super advanced machine intelligence has become “self-aware” (alive) – and as such he will need time
    and space to let his hair down.

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